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Papa MidnightApparently, though I didn't verify this myself (admittedly), VALVe takes 75% of the purchase price for community creations.04/23/2015 - 11:41pm
Papa MidnightJudging by the state of SteamCommunity and reddit, people don't seem to thrilled with VALVe's community creations policies.04/23/2015 - 11:39pm
Matthew Wilsonwrong site it was slate my bad. - 10:27pm
MattsworknameWhich piece was that Matthw? Voxx did alot of them04/23/2015 - 9:57pm
Matthew WilsonI dont like ether side of this mess, but I think the vox peice from a few months back is one of the better peices on how to end this stupid thing.04/23/2015 - 9:47pm
MattsworknameTrue mecha, but in ideology fights like this, most times people dont care who or what the allies do.04/23/2015 - 9:47pm
MechaCrashIt is incredibly obvious that Milo had no dog in this fight and was inserting himself for reasons unrelated to gaming, it's just that he *actually did* what GG keeps accusing Sarkeesian of doing.04/23/2015 - 9:28pm
MattsworknameAlso, andrew, I knew there were others, just wasnt aware of there specifcs names or anything04/23/2015 - 9:23pm
MattsworknameAndrew, I think what was unprecedented was how much reporting there was on it. It was never really big in the public eye before.04/23/2015 - 9:22pm
MattsworknameMilo came around cause it srved is purpose. Lots of people do Mecha. its called politics04/23/2015 - 9:20pm
MechaCrashI'm sure there's more, Milo is just the first guy that comes to mind as "fraud with political agenda."04/23/2015 - 9:14pm
PHX CorpIm trying to test out Windows 10 Tech Preview Project Spartan web browser by stopping by GP04/23/2015 - 9:13pm
Andrew EisenReally, that's it? Off the top of my head I can name Thunderf00t, Amazing Atheist, AlphaOmegaSin (haven't watched any myself), tl;dr, Mr. Repzion and that guy behind the Sarkeesian Effect.04/23/2015 - 9:04pm
MechaCrashYeah, remember when Sarkeesian publicly stated games weren't for her, or called gamers "losers in yellowing underpants?" Oh, wait, that was Yianopolous. Funny how that never seems to come up...04/23/2015 - 9:02pm
Andrew EisenUnprecedented too. I don't think we had ever seen anything like this up to that point. Not on that scale for what it was targeting.04/23/2015 - 9:01pm
MattsworknameAndrew, the only video maker I know who seems to do anything realy direct about anita is some guy called Sargon of akkhad04/23/2015 - 9:01pm
Andrew EisenDisagree. The sheer frequency and severity of the abuse and threats (again, before she even said anything) was completely unexpected for most, I'd wager.04/23/2015 - 9:00pm
MattsworknameAndrew, if you spend time on any for of online gaming, you had to know that crap was coming.04/23/2015 - 8:45pm
Andrew EisenI rather enjoy Sarkeesian's videos. This is true. But I would defend anyone who has been mischaracterized or lied about. Even Jack Thompson. Sarkeesian is not special in that regard.04/23/2015 - 8:00pm
Andrew EisenKaylaKaze - We've been over this. She's not lying about anything. She's taken nothing out of context (in the sense that it would change what she's talking about) and the Mirror's Edge thing was something someone else made up.04/23/2015 - 7:57pm
Andrew EisenMatt - I don't fully agree. I think everyone, even Sarkeesian, expected disagreement and even trolling and name calling but I don't think most expected the outright threats and attacks simply for intending to analyse games from a particular perspective.04/23/2015 - 7:56pm
KaylaKazeYes Andrew, we all know how big your hard-on is for her. The evidence is all over.04/23/2015 - 7:55pm
KaylaKazeI agree with her alleged position, but you don't do justice to your position when you support it with lies and taking things out of context. And don't even get me started on "Mirror's Edge's controls are too hard for girls!"04/23/2015 - 7:54pm
Andrew EisenKaylaKaze - Great, but considering there's no evidence she's a con artist, such an statement makes you look really foolish and obnoxious.04/23/2015 - 7:53pm
Andrew EisenThat's the perception some seem to be under but the problem is, Thompson's antics were unquestionably an attack against our hobby (in the tangibly destructive sense), Sarkeesian's criticisms are unquestionably not.04/23/2015 - 7:52pm
KaylaKazeI don't think her work is an attack against my hobby. I think she's a disengenuous con artist whose only goals are fame and money.04/23/2015 - 7:50pm
Mattsworknamework were , she still has the right ot posti t, but she shouldn't have been suprised by the reaction, it was entirely predictible, though in no way justified. But, the negitive reaction was exactly what I expected to happen.04/23/2015 - 7:47pm
MattsworknameI think it boils down to a an already angry and hostile group viewing her work as an out and out attack against there hobby. Sorta the way Jack thompsons stuff was viewed back in the day. I made the argument that, whatever my personal concerns with her04/23/2015 - 7:46pm
Andrew EisenI just can't personally comprehend people who want to dislike someone or something so incredibly badly that they flat-out make stuff up in order to justify that dislike.04/23/2015 - 7:18pm
Andrew EisenI want to understand where this attitude and belief is coming from but so far, there's just nothing there. Maybe some people need a boogeyman so badly that their willing to completely make stuff up to make it so.04/23/2015 - 7:17pm
Andrew Eisen...but I want to believe that people aren't this obnoxious and nonsensical.04/23/2015 - 7:16pm
Andrew EisenI know. But polite and earnest people keep saying "But Andrew, this video shows that Sarkeesian is X!" So I watch the video and - every single time so far - the linked video does nothing to support their claim. Shame on me, I guess...04/23/2015 - 7:15pm
Mattsworknameyou'll never be done if you do.04/23/2015 - 7:14pm
MattsworknameThe net has a near endless supply of that stuff andrew. don't try to watch it all.04/23/2015 - 7:13pm
Andrew EisenAnd because I always try to give people and their claims the benefit of the doubt, I keep watching the damn things.04/23/2015 - 7:11pm
Andrew EisenYeah, I'm well aware of the many YouTubers who frequently rail against Sarkeesian. People keep linking me to them.04/23/2015 - 7:09pm
Andrew EisenPoorly written visual novels where choice mostly doesn't matter (despite that being a selling point) with gameplay (what incredibly little there is) that's mostly not engaging.04/23/2015 - 7:08pm
MattsworknameAndrew: oh, Im just saying tthats whats going on right now. you don't get that kinda enmity anywhere else but the Internet.04/23/2015 - 7:07pm
Matthew Wilson@AE it is becouse their recent stuff are basically visual novels.04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Andrew EisenMattsworkname - Yeah, so?04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Mattsworknameas for the honey badgers, as I pointed out, they seem to just make crazy crap happen no matter where they go.04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Andrew EisenI still just want them to make games I enjoy. Love adventure games and love the IP but can't stand their recent games.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
MattsworknameAndrew, Sarkeesian isn't a con artist, but she has plenty of enemies, hell ,theres whole swaths of youtube that are dedicated soley to debunking her videos.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
Andrew EisenWell, gross mismanagement if it doesn't have the staff to cover all its projects.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
Matthew Wilson@AE as I understand it they have 240 people split among 5 projects, an by the loke of the jobs page they are hiring a decent number of people.04/23/2015 - 7:03pm
Andrew EisenA. No reason it can't do both (although Disney is both Star Wars and Marvel. Does EA have an exclusive on Star Wars for video games?) so long as it... B. Has the staff to cover all its projects, data I'm not privy to.04/23/2015 - 7:00pm
Matthew WilsonA. I thought they would go with EA since disney is with star wars. B. does telltale even have the staff to handle all their cureent projects plus those new ones?04/23/2015 - 6:52pm
Andrew EisenI just hope Telltale finally makes a game I enjoy playing.04/23/2015 - 6:51pm
Andrew EisenI don't find it the least bit surprising. Why do you?04/23/2015 - 6:48pm
Matthew Wilson that is surprising, what do you guys think?04/23/2015 - 6:44pm
Matthew Wilson@AE @EZK I think the valve monitizing mods is a very worth while topic for this weekends show.04/23/2015 - 5:18pm
prh99You know what hell with this site.04/23/2015 - 2:44pm
prh99Believe what you want. I know what I meant to say.04/23/2015 - 2:42pm
Andrew EisenLanguage, people. Language. Really naughty words get deleted.04/23/2015 - 2:41pm
Michael Chandra#norealtypo04/23/2015 - 2:39pm
Michael ChandraOf course it was.04/23/2015 - 2:39pm
prh99It was typo. Jeez. Though I wouldn't be surprised if some of the same people were involved in the complaints.04/23/2015 - 2:37pm
Michael ChandraWait, CalgaryCon tried to get SupaNova to recall bringing Baldwin? Where did you get that from?04/23/2015 - 2:36pm
prh99So an expo booted a group they thought supported gamergate. Big surprise, similar groups did try to get Adam Baldwin removed as speaker on unsupported claim his presence would cause more harassment. They've made no bones about their desire for blacklists.04/23/2015 - 2:35pm
Andrew EisenIanC - As has been explained repeatedly over the years, Sarkeesian is not a con artist and until you can provide any evidence that she is, I will not permit such libel in the Shout box or comments.04/23/2015 - 2:34pm
MechaCrashThe Honey Badgers didn't just lie to get in and disrupt panels, they knew that getting bounced was a possibility, and are already selling shirts. THIS is what a "professional victim" actually looks like.04/23/2015 - 2:33pm
E. Zachary KnightMicheal, They violated the trust of the con operators. Why would any con run by those operators want them to attend let alone exhibit?04/23/2015 - 2:29pm
Michael ChandraDisclaimer: Chances are I still wouldn't listen even if you're being reasonable. I already picked my own opinion and doubt anybody will manage to change it.04/23/2015 - 2:27pm
Michael ChandraBut this? Yeah no...04/23/2015 - 2:25pm
Michael ChandraAnd I spit on any anti-GG people who think it's okay to dox them, or deaththreat them, or try to cost them their jobs if they didn't break the law first.04/23/2015 - 2:25pm
Michael ChandraBoth sides oughta play fair. Nobody deserves having their personal life completely terrorized. Both sides deserve 'I am ignoring you' or 'let's properly talk', rather than shouts and threats.04/23/2015 - 2:24pm
Michael ChandraBut let's face it: Chances are they had ZERO intent to play fair. They wanted to become martyrs instead.04/23/2015 - 2:24pm
Matthew Wilson@mich agreed04/23/2015 - 2:23pm
Michael ChandraI don't think they should be kicked out of every con. If they attend a con under false pretenses and deliberately try to derail panels and rile things up? Yes, if that breaks the rules, kick them out. They want to be upfront and play by the rules? Sure.04/23/2015 - 2:22pm
Michael ChandraNo, see, it's anti-feminists so they're allowed to lie, cheat and break all the rules and play the victim card.04/23/2015 - 2:20pm
Matthew Wilson oh god yes. I hope its true.04/23/2015 - 2:18pm
MonteAnne Wheaton is also making matching donations to RAINN and ACLU04/23/2015 - 2:14pm
ConsterYou know what's sad? You calling Sarkeesian, who got all kinds of shit she didn't deserve, a con artist, when Honey Badgers got into the con under false pretenses and deliberately misbehaved so they could cry misogyny after being asked to leave.04/23/2015 - 2:04pm
IanCIts sad how many people are okay with Honey Badgers getting expelled from all cons by that group that would hate it if it happened to any other women. But because they aren't all pro-third wave "feminism" its okay for them to get kicked out.04/23/2015 - 1:50pm
IanCWhat a waste of money. Theres far better groups that ,obey could be sent to, actual charities helping women.04/23/2015 - 1:49pm
Matthew Wilson COD is trying to imitate Dues ex04/23/2015 - 1:37pm
ConsterApparently she's reached her $1000 cap.04/23/2015 - 1:30pm
Andrew EisenAnne Wheaton shared an opinion on the Honey Badgers expulsion from the Calgary Expo and got harassed for it. So she came up with a fun and novel approach to dealing with it. - 1:25pm
PHX Corp PSN Pre-Order Glitch Has Gone Ignored For Months04/23/2015 - 1:11pm
IvresseIt's because I was...very...disappointed...and if there's one thing I hate *taps numbers into a keypad* it's to be...disappointed...04/23/2015 - 10:30am
MattsworknameLow conster, no, thats just gonna to be in court for 1000 years04/23/2015 - 10:15am
ConsterObamacare?04/23/2015 - 10:11am
MattsworknameCause XIII was a massive pile of Crap that has finally destroyed any goodwill Square had left?04/23/2015 - 10:06am
IvresseApart from Warlords of Draenor for obvious reasons, I haven't preordered since Final Fantasy XIII...I think you can tell why I stopped preordering then.04/23/2015 - 9:58am
Matthew WilsonI agree people need to stop pre ordering.04/23/2015 - 9:25am
MattsworknameWow, did not know that, thanks for clearing that up04/23/2015 - 9:04am
IvresseWe also have CEX, but they don't really count as they only deal with second-hand and trade-in retail.04/23/2015 - 8:57am
IvresseNo, we've still got GAME stores, it went into administration but was purchased out of it by OpCapita. They did have to close a lot of stores though and Gamestation no longer exists as a store name.04/23/2015 - 8:55am
MattsworknameNow if only the US gamers would get on board with this trend04/23/2015 - 8:55am
IvresseSlowly but surely, we're sending a message to people putting up preorder paywalls...04/23/2015 - 8:51am
MattsworknameWait Ivresse, I thought the uk didn't have any game retailers left after Game Collapsed. Or were they replaced by gamestop ?04/23/2015 - 8:50am
Ivresse3.4 million UK gamers are holding off on pre-ordering video games - - 8:46am
MattsworknameWanted to put this up earlier, but remember the honeybadger booth thing, well, it's not the first time something crazy went down with them.04/23/2015 - 8:28am
Mattsworkname - 8:28am
MattsworknameYou know Zippy, I was never able to get into the Overlord series, dont' know if it just didn't work for me, casue I really wanted to like it.04/23/2015 - 8:10am
ZippyDSMlee - 8:00am
Mattsworknamepolitics, not Gamer inculsivity. all Im saying. Im actually on board with they whole convention, IF they stand by there stated goals.04/23/2015 - 5:59am
MattsworknameNot what I was getting at Mecha, but these people agree with Gaymerx stated mission ,even if they have other views on other subjects, how does excluding them, expecially if they are LGBT as well, show any kind of inclusvity. It sounds like promoting04/23/2015 - 5:59am
Mattsworkname/sarcasm04/23/2015 - 5:42am
MechaCrashDo you really need it explained to you why a LGBT group doesn't want conservatives around?04/23/2015 - 5:34am
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