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MattsworknameI bet that video would drive Iron patriot nuts07/21/2015 - 10:24pm
MattsworknameTop hats and champagne about gamergate. The good, bad, ugly, and anime - 10:23pm
MattsworknameThe opposite end of this was Darks souls ,a game whose lore and world I love, but whose game mechanics irritate the crap outta me07/21/2015 - 10:15pm
MattsworknameThe best example of this in my mind was limbo. It was just a simple platform with a nice visual style, but it was so engaging to me that I played it 3 times over and still loved it07/21/2015 - 10:14pm
MattsworknameAs i've argued in the past, if you CANT make a game that both tells the story you want and is engaging to the player, you fail either as a story writer, or a game designer, you can pick what you suck at, but you still suck07/21/2015 - 10:13pm
Goth_SkunkWhich is why, if a developer DOES make a game that can be completed in less than two hours, then the game had better also give me reason to play it again. Like The Stanley Parable, for example.07/21/2015 - 10:13pm
MattsworknameAt the end of the day goth ,refunds are a good thing, flat out, and will only improve the pc gaming marketplace07/21/2015 - 10:12pm
Goth_SkunkBut with a refund policy in place, it gives the customer the ability to apply their individual standard of quality, and some indie dev's might be in for a shock when they learn they don't make the cut.07/21/2015 - 10:12pm
Goth_SkunkWhile any joe-blow can hamfist a bunch of assets together, write some sloppy code and call it a game (and many indie games on Steam are like that), without a refund policy the minimum standard of quality is set awfully low.07/21/2015 - 10:11pm
Goth_SkunkActually I can empathize with indie developers who develop games thatcan be completed in under two hours. But I don't have any sympathy for them.07/21/2015 - 10:09pm
MattsworknameAnyone else see the irony on this?07/21/2015 - 9:57pm
MattsworknameIndie devs including brianna wu, are against steam refunds. Not ubisoft, not other big game publishers, but indie devs. - 9:57pm
MattsworknameGoth: Im a skeptic by nature, and working in tech support has made me a exceddlingly questioning person. I take EVERYTHING with massive amounts of skepticism. It's just how I am now adays07/21/2015 - 9:47pm
MattsworknameAmen on that wilson, I've been saying that for years. As an aside, I have one thing to say that all games should have, regardless of platform. Subtitiles07/21/2015 - 9:46pm
Matthew Wilson a good article of stuff a pc game should have07/21/2015 - 9:34pm
Goth_Skunk@Matt: I have. Granted I take ED with, as you put it, a truckload of salt, but yes, it's quite hilarious.07/21/2015 - 9:26pm
Mattsworkname - 9:23pm
MattsworknameAnd more fantastic movie bob ego and hate07/21/2015 - 9:23pm
Mattsworkname - 9:20pm
MattsworknameAlso, moviebob shows his lack of class regarding the SVU episode07/21/2015 - 9:20pm
MattsworknameOh goth, you want funny, go check out Encylopidia dramticas movie bob page, its hilarious, in kind of a depressing way07/21/2015 - 9:20pm
Goth_Skunk@Andrew: I am embarrassed, but not for me. I'm embarrassed for you. Dismissing an argument out of hand even in the face of evidence is not a trait I would expect of you.07/21/2015 - 9:19pm
MattsworknameWhich is exactly what the video link showed07/21/2015 - 9:07pm
MattsworknameOh, and for the record andrew, heres the definition of hypocracy. : the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel07/21/2015 - 9:07pm
MattsworknameTry swimming, it's lower impact for cardio.07/21/2015 - 9:04pm
MattsworknameAnd there it is. Exactly what I expected. See andrew ,this is why you and I diagree. You will disregard, without cause, anything that doesn't fit your specific view points. I look at all view points but with excessive skepticism07/21/2015 - 9:03pm
Andrew EisenI'm off to the gym.07/21/2015 - 9:00pm
Andrew EisenNo. No. NO. I am not watching more 5 to over 20 minute long videos of these people's astoundingly horrible arguments.07/21/2015 - 8:58pm
Andrew EisenHypocrisy wasn't what we're discussing but that video was not an example of it anyway. Disagreeing with something someone says does not make them a hypocrite.07/21/2015 - 8:57pm
Mattsworkname - 8:56pm
MattsworknameHere, lemme hand over the reins to someone who has done a bit more research on it07/21/2015 - 8:56pm
MattsworknameAlso, rage aholic video inbound - 8:55pm
MattsworknameYes, and there in lies the difference betwene us, the video specificly points out a clear example of hypocracy, and you act like it didn't happen even when he used video from bobs own shows as proof.07/21/2015 - 8:55pm
Andrew EisenOkay, yes, that allthetropes page is completely useless to support your argument.07/21/2015 - 8:54pm
Andrew EisenWell, that was a complete waste of my time that does nothing to support your claim either. Did you even watch it?07/21/2015 - 8:53pm
Mattsworknamediscussion07/21/2015 - 8:48pm
MattsworknameWell, dont forget andrew ,you and I have had very different reactions to stuff before, often with you dismissing things that I find reprehensible or absolutely improper, so, I take all your statments with a dump truck of salt. But, i still like having the07/21/2015 - 8:48pm
Mattsworkname - 8:47pm
MattsworknameWow, did not know he had his own page on all the tropes, might be worth looking into , but, warning ,it's user generated, so be careful not to take it all at face value07/21/2015 - 8:47pm
Andrew EisenHey, take your time. You're not doing yourself any favors with what you've provided so far (haven't looked at your latest link).07/21/2015 - 8:46pm
MattsworknameIm just gathering what I can inbetween calls at my job, going through bobs history on twitter isn't a 5 minute process. Also, good video about bobs hypocracy - 8:44pm
Andrew EisenPolitical tangents? Like what? Of the last 20, I see two that are expressly political (American Sniper and Charlie Hebdo). The rest are about goofy games, comics and movies. EDIT: Maybe the "Censor" episodes too.07/21/2015 - 8:33pm
Andrew EisenThat has nothing to do with the SVU episode and isn't evidence of anything you've said either. It's a guy calmly and clearly stating his opinion.07/21/2015 - 8:31pm
MattsworknameIn regards to the big picture, I actually loved that show up till near the end, when he started going off on some policital tangents07/21/2015 - 8:29pm
MattsworknameRegarding the SVU episode - 8:29pm
Andrew EisenWhoopee.07/21/2015 - 8:28pm
Mattsworkname - 8:25pm
MattsworknameBloody freaking shout box cut off my statment, that link was supposed to be at the end of the post07/21/2015 - 8:25pm
MattsworknameAndrew, as a start, heres what happened with b regarding totalbisquit07/21/2015 - 8:24pm
Andrew EisenAlso interesting that you divine an ego issue from his Big Picture episodes which, while they are about his interests, are almost never (if ever) about him and typically about weird video games, comics and movies.07/21/2015 - 8:21pm
MattsworknameAndrew ,I'll go see what I can recover from his twitter records, as for my spelling, yeah, I kinda suck at spelling. Sorry07/21/2015 - 8:20pm
Andrew EisenOh, and I'd be very interested if you could link me to examples of Chipman's "violent aversion to opposing viewpoints."07/21/2015 - 8:18pm
Andrew EisenAnd dude, seriously. I'm sure you're typing on a phone or something but take an extra few seconds and check your spelling. Yikes.07/21/2015 - 8:17pm
Andrew EisenWhich is fine but that's not the observation you initially put forth that I'm clearly referring to.07/21/2015 - 8:16pm
Mattsworknameviewpoints07/21/2015 - 8:15pm
MattsworknameWrong, it's based on bobs pattern of behviore and actions over time. Ranging from his choices in his subject matter from the big picture, to hsi actions on twitter, which, in particular, showed both severe ego problems, but a violent aversion to opposing07/21/2015 - 8:15pm
Andrew EisenThen you should know that your observation was obnoxious, nonsensical bunk.07/21/2015 - 8:13pm
MattsworknameBut to be fair andrew, Psycoanlisim is a hobby of mine that I've been doing for years cause of my job, so, I tend to anaylse everything07/21/2015 - 8:08pm
MattsworknameOr that you have issues man. Just kidding ,but with you ,I don't normally get a sense of inflated ego the way I do with bob07/21/2015 - 8:03pm
Andrew EisenI did a video where I played an over-reactionary asshat, a forum troll and a pedophile. Reading anything into that other than "Andrew is a crew of one" is obnoxious and silly.07/21/2015 - 8:01pm
MattsworknameWe may never know really, But for my view, i think he has an ego problem, though as I said, I think he's gotten better after going back to screw attack07/21/2015 - 8:01pm
Andrew EisenOr, again, that it's a function of necessity being he's a crew of one. It's far more likely that it's really that simple.07/21/2015 - 7:59pm
MattsworknameThe idea thta one man can be all players in a story? Even the most junior of phsycology students would tell you that indicates either arrogance, ego, or both.07/21/2015 - 7:58pm
Andrew EisenNo, being a crew of one is not a sign that you have an ego problem. That's silly.07/21/2015 - 7:56pm
Mattsworknamemore level headed then some of his previous stuff. Got me watching it again.07/21/2015 - 7:55pm
MattsworknameTrue, but that in itself is also an indication of his ego. Althought it does show a good degree of creativity. Still, bobs got an ego problem, and I think getting canned by the escapist was a blow to it. His work for screwattack has been, well, better and07/21/2015 - 7:55pm
Andrew EisenAlso, he's ALWAYS included politics in his commentary. Hell, he used to do a show on actual gov't-type politics. But hey, if his commentary or shows don't do it for you, that's cool but it's obnoxious when people invent reasons to justify their dislike.07/21/2015 - 7:55pm
Andrew EisenThat's one way to interpret it. Or you could look at it as he's a crew of one and plays every character on the show including the devil.07/21/2015 - 7:54pm
MattsworknameAndrew, bobs ego isn't something that most people doubt is rather infalted, I mean ,in his own show ,he made himself god. Ego much?07/21/2015 - 7:50pm
Andrew Eisenbecause he has a very inflated view of his value in pop-culture. He actually believes that what he holds influence as a critic. He fails to recognize most people see him as a joke."07/21/2015 - 7:47pm
Andrew EisenGoth - Yeah, I imagine it was quite embarrassing when I pointed out that noting that there are personalities more popular than Bob Chipman does absolutely squat to support your claim that "Chipman admonishes people for watching movies he deems unworthy...07/21/2015 - 7:47pm
Mattsworknamelove his work, but as time went on, he moved away fro game and movie discussion and more towards the policitcs side of things, I got more and more annoyed with his behavior. As top hats and champaing says, keep politics outta it. Gaming doesn't need it.07/21/2015 - 7:38pm
MattsworknameIn regards to bob, I think the biggest issue is he lacks any real level of tact, he's a bombastic and combative personality, which can be good in teh right usage, but when it's used none stop like he does, it comes off as gratting and abrasive. I used to07/21/2015 - 7:37pm
Goth_Skunk@Andrew: Most times it is a pleasure watching your mind at work. This is not one of those times.07/21/2015 - 7:29pm
Goth_SkunkFeminist Champion Randi Harper In Her Own Words: "Stop Making Everything A Gender Issue" Part 3 of 3, I think. - 7:27pm
WymorenceOh please, please god don't show the body of anyone but Kermit ever again, ABC... Just... no...07/21/2015 - 6:16pm
Andrew EisenFull pitch video for ABC's new Muppet show. - 5:13pm
Craig R.A GG supporter accusing others of moving goalposts. That's classic.07/21/2015 - 4:46pm
benohawk@Matthew: That is some of the best news I've received in a long time07/21/2015 - 4:27pm
Andrew EisenAlso, your off-base description of his shtick tells me you're not very familiar with Chipman's work at all.07/21/2015 - 4:22pm
Andrew EisenThat's a pretty silly assertion and makes no business sense but even so, it still does nothing to support any of your claims.07/21/2015 - 4:20pm
Goth_SkunkAlso regarding Screwattack, let's not forget that moviebob left them to join the Escapist, and after the Escapist let him go, came crawling back to them. ScrewAttack giving Moviebob his old job back is the internet vlogger version of a pityfu... screw.07/21/2015 - 4:15pm
Andrew EisenNo goalpost moving. Your evidence isn't evidence of your claims. As explained.07/21/2015 - 4:09pm
Goth_SkunkIt just means you're moving the goalposts.07/21/2015 - 4:07pm
Goth_SkunkNo, I provided plenty of evidence. The fact that it doesn't convince you does not mean it isn't evidence.07/21/2015 - 4:07pm
Andrew EisenAs I explained, you provided zero evidence that supports your claims.07/21/2015 - 4:06pm
Andrew EisenDebate clubs are not for you, mate. Sorry.07/21/2015 - 4:04pm
Goth_Skunk@Andrew: Why ask me to provide evidence if you're just going to be blind to it?07/21/2015 - 4:04pm
Goth_SkunkWhich, as my evidence shows, eventually becomes boring and uninteresting. People turn to him only to find out about things he doesn't like, so they can start liking it.07/21/2015 - 4:03pm
Andrew Eisen"He's not entertaining" is a completely subjective opinion and one that plenty people disagree with (also runs contrary to Screw Attack picking him up and so far, keeping him around). And it also does nothing to support any of your claims.07/21/2015 - 4:03pm
Goth_SkunkHe's not *pretending* to be a cranky get-off-my-lawn-you-damn-kids sort of curmudgeon; he actually *is* one.07/21/2015 - 4:02pm
Goth_SkunkHe's not the first critic to present himself as a curmudgeon as part of his schtick (Boogie2988 has Francis, the AVGN has himself, for examples), but unlike others in the same practice, he's not entertaining.07/21/2015 - 4:01pm
Andrew Eisen"He's not as popular/successful as other people" does not support anything you said. Neither does the fact that Escapist let him go and he makes money from Patreon (like many others do) and Screw Attack.07/21/2015 - 4:01pm
Goth_SkunkHe states on Patreon that the income generated there is only supplementary. He has over a thousand subscribers but is pulling in less money than some people on Patreon I support (furry artists in particular) who bring in more money with fewer patrons.07/21/2015 - 3:58pm
Goth_SkunkIn fact, Ian Miles Cheong has come out and stated that because of Moviebob's hatres of "Pixels", he's now much more interested to see it. But carrying on, he was let go from The Escapist and now relies on Patreon in order to continue doing what he does.->07/21/2015 - 3:56pm
Goth_SkunkSure do. His social media following pales in comparison to other well known critics and critics of critics. Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Ian Miles Cheong, Sargon of Akkad, shoe0nhead, and Mr. Repzion to name a few. ->07/21/2015 - 3:55pm
Papa MidnightBetter get the kettle ready. Time to put a pot on.07/21/2015 - 3:54pm
Andrew EisenGot data to back up them claims, Goth?07/21/2015 - 3:23pm
Goth_Skunk@Andrew: Chipman admonishes people for watching movies he deems unworthy because he has a very inflated view of his value in pop-culture. He actually believes that what he holds influence as a critic. He fails to recognize most people see him as a joke.07/21/2015 - 3:19pm
Matthew Wilson this is cool good on them for doing this.07/21/2015 - 1:48pm
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